AM LOOKING FOR CLEAN, SAFE, I know more about Teena Brandon and what happened to her than you. I AM UNDER CONSTANT When I say that Teena Brandon was awesome, I mean it. It allows the individuals that commit violent crimes to be glamorized, to feel gratitude for the crimes they committed. Had this been in the military, it would have been seen as great military bearing, instead we have a defiant mug shot. Regarding your other point, about common people with nothing special about them egregiously murdered. You also try to use her mental illness history as another reason the crime didnt happen due to her trans status but because she tried to ingratiate herself with these thugs. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. He also provides additional details of Teenas time with her gay cousins in Omaha. Indeed, CA estimated then that is cost 10 times more than lifers cost. As a physician who provides gender-affirming care for trans persons, as well as primary care for all members of the LGBTQIA+ communities, Ive been humbled and blessed for the privilege of being inspired by their individual journeys. His fear of being executed has broken him. now people can say or feel it was not a dangerous inversion of sexual identity but the consequences of any choice determine its nature, and she/he had a lot problems because of it including being murdered by a couple of monsters. Try hard as you might, you will not find any other photo of Teena touching a male. Nobody knows he is a repeat rapist who has raped other women before he got busted for triple murder. I got news for em. Thanks. Teena Brandon really wanted to be a soldier. This was more of a contributing factor to rape than any sexual orientation issues. I WAS TOLD, To call Nissens prior arrests as sex raps trivializes his crimes and his prior female victims whom he put in the shelter for battered women, and if you believe that diminished sexual assault charges exclude the possibility of rape, you are naive. John Lotter is a very violent criminal. The man never showed remorse and would do it again because he judged Teena as deserving of what they did to her. He moved into the home of Lisa Lambert and later started dating Lana Tisdel. S/he was indeed female, and no fiddling with genitalia nor pharmacological therapy could change that. Second, read the account of Teena and her gay cousins in the Village Voice article, then see her gay cousins testimony in the Brandon Teena story how Teena would disappear for a couple of hours and come back with food, $200 $300, and it would be his. She was hurt as a woman, she suffered as a woman, and her murder was a crime of violence against women. BB: Thanks for your most engaging response. The media, the transsexual people, the director of this hopeless movie in which she was pathetically played Hilary Swank, all twisted everything. Finally, one of the last statements that Teena made was there is no Brandon, I am Teena. Plus, its possible that Lotter is just bad at taking written tests. So, much so, that the critics were accusing Jimenez of Truthism and called to have the author stripped of the award that he received for it. HOUSING! Brandon : I hate your life, too. Facts from the case put a large dent in a popular nation that Teena Brandon was attacked by the two jealous boyfriend once they discovered that Brandon is a girl. That night, adult inmates beat him to a bloody pulp, and tortured him by burning him with cigarettes and lit matches between his toes. Teenas circumstances shout psychosocial mess. What I specifically reject is the notion she was somehow MORE victim or SPECIAL victim cos identity politics says she is via claiming it was a hate crime (hate crime attracting greater censure and punishment than the equivalent non-hate crime). One last point, there is a Teena Brandons funeral photo just before her coffin goes into the ground. So I dont get why states allows a inmate to marry. Your narrative is wrong, but it wont be the first time in history. There are military men who transitioned to female after they enlisted, but that is a smoke from another fire. How about I knock on your door and tell you that I been looking for a long time for you. Lotter, whose criminal record traces back to a 1987 theft and escape conviction at age 16, occupies a cell on death row in the Tecumseh State Correctional Institution. You shouldnt call him a girl or use she/her. All involved young men and twenty somethings. Later on, kids go through a period of adjustment, but most people remain true to themselves on some level. In the fall of 1993, Tisdel, aged 18, met Brandon Teena, 20, through their mutual friends. She called herself Tenna Ray Brandon. You actually made a case for her identifying as a man with her attempted suicide, desire to be in the military, trying to be one of the gang, etc. Tisdel was taken to Stormont Vail Hospital in Topeka, Kansas with serious injuries.[11][12]. Your email address will not be published. Based on things she said, Teena reacted emotionally as a female, not a male to the rape and beating. How sad that there are so many shallow minded people. TERRORIZED, Unwitting accomplice. OFF WITH THEIR EVIL HEADS!! The Hollywood Reporter LOS ANGELES - Lana Tisdel, the former girlfriend of slain teen-ager Teena Brandon, who was portrayed by Oscar-nominated Chloe Sevigny in the critically acclaimed Fox. For this is the flip side of identity fixation. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotters former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. That, then, reflects a capacity to reason, to scheme and to that degree militates against the notion that they should not be considered culpable. Nissen served five years as a juvenile previously and he worked as the prison psychologists aide, helping with the classification of inmates. While Im mindful that biological sex is fixed and significant (in the face of PC dross denying), I presume BT would wish to be referred to as male, and it seems churlish not to do so. The problem lies in *demand* of the use of the likes of pronouns by or for those whove had a sex change, and the further stance that this is authentic change of sex (rather than gender). God rest their souls. the poor kid didnt seem to have a chance and I do not think tainting the truth with more feelings is going to help things. She said Brandon doesnt exist anymore. Particular care in this case would need to be made that he had capacity to know his actions were wrong before imposing death, and if in any doubt, that would indicate life without parole (as necessarily theres no potential for rehabilitation). Their reduced circumstances, however, havent stopped the pair from snagging love interests while behind bars. She was wounded in a stabbing attack by an ex-husband and supported her family on a monthly disability check of less than $400, according to an account by writer Eric Konigsberg, who grew up in Omaha. I hate people talking about Teena as Brandon. But Jude was stating she was male prior to operation in which case you DIDNT agree! Trending. After dinner, the others jumped him and beat him to a bloody pulp, and they robbed him. Nissen later admitted that their original plan was to dismember Brandon, but they didnt have a chance to go through with it, according to court papers. Lotter is tall, 62, bigger than either Teena or Nissen. The underachieving trio met while they were couch-surfing and partying in the town of Falls City and other spots in Richardson County. Teena and Tisdel began seeing each other, because Tisdel found Teena attractive and believed Brandon was a cisgender man. He feet wouldnt hold her weight. Today, she maintains a presence on the internet, but she uses her married name, Lana Bachman, and probably isnt looking to satisfy curiosity seekers. Real Teena was an awesome individual who was tarred and feathered in the Falls City. Not to mention, . But the water was frozen, and police found the items the next day. A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. And while arguments good, those incapable of engaging with argument resort to assertion and moral coercion: If you disagree with me youre mean/nasty/inhumane Thats dross. His loved ones and a lot of idiots, LGBT types included, are trying to get him off the death row. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Interestingly, although Nissen reportedly has an IQ score in the 80s, Dunne, who corresponded with him in prison, said that Nissen read and understood books written by Dunnes wife, the literary journalist Joan Didion. John Lotter and Tom Nissen are currently in prison, with Nissen serving life imprisonment and Lotter facing execution. His descriptions are great. The notion that retardedness being intellectually below average equates to failure to know the difference between right and wrong, seems to me pretty dubious. I enjoyed the update, especially knowing that these two low lives are still behind bars. We all wonder what on earth theyre doing the answer being fetishising the murderous/rapist/criminal object. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Not to mention, Brandons murder was in retaliation for his reporting the rape. THEY TRIED TO KILL ME Maybe he is afraid of going to hell. Having agreed that Brandon is male your subsequent assertion either had to contradict that or was otiose. They took a circuitous trip back to Falls City, so no one would see them returning from Humboldts direction. Teena blew him off. Please attend to what I stated above: Im happy to refer to people as they wish so long as Im not asked to deny biological sex., This digressive exchange certainly illustrates that some need to consider the clarity of their writing and the sex/gender topic is precisely one that both illustrates the need for precision and those it eludes. Not just that, he based his writing on certain assumptions, did not follow through with research and fact checking, missing certain key events revealed in court testimony and police reports. 1 Antagonist. She spent two years working at a Mc Donalds restaurant, and they wanted her, a high school drop out to go on the management track. These men killed 3 people. ATTACK DOG PUT UPON ME, The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . JoAnn received only $17,000, according to an account from writer Charles Laurence that ran in the (Ottawa) Citizens Weekly on April 2, 2000. She wanted to be a commercial artist. They deserve the death sentence, regardless. When Teenas teen-age father was killed in his car accident, his parents took Teenas pregnant mom in. Sevigny received an Oscar nomination for her role. I look forward to brand new updates and will talk about this website with my Facebook group. Its an example of the distortion created by PC. I disagree: unless s/hes a whole-lifer or capital case, so may be released, having something to live for is a positive influence in inmates lives, giving the incentive to behave and receive earlier parole, and as being positive for their mental health in a psychologically damaging environment. SUFFERED Lotter also describes Teena was staring at him while Nissen was pulling her pants off at the party and was groping her. They then drove to the house of Lisa Lambert, where Brandon had been hiding out. Between the time she got kicked out of her prep school and the time the military finally rejected her, she could have gotten a GED (Graduation Equivalency Diploma). 6 OTHERS, THAT You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. A bunch of not really Hoboes were having a Barbeque alongside the railway tracks. Dont you all find it strange, how the punitive legal franchise inherited from England that bullies and mishandles us all and stands beside the same Cabals Central banking scam is still called the Crown Temple Franchise and how it was forever passed through the ages Intact? Apparently an act Teena put on for Lana. There has been scrutiny that the lack of information about DeVine, who was from Iowa, is because he was African American, and Leslie stated she believed he has been left out of the story because of racism. Have you read any forensics work on the crime scene? John Lotter is an insect, a non-entity, nothing resembling a human being. Sounds a lot like premeditated to me. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). She needed men as an audience for which she would get in bed with any girl, either to show off for her male pack of to get their approval, a feminine trait, but not reserved for women only. One good argument against capital punishment is its very expensive because of the years of costly litigation (typically over $1m by execution day) years and cost that are probably justified to ensure thorough fairness when life is at stake (defendants have been exonerated years after death row occupancy) Its absurd to take typically 15 years and $1m+ to execute the offender rather than award life without parole: crazy for taxpayers and maddening for victims loved ones experiencing a very protracted deferral of sentence. Tisdel found out he was transgender after his birth name was printed in the local newspaper in the arrests section. CONCERNED When taken in this context, Sheriff Lauxs infamous interview of Teena is not as preposterous as it seems, though it does not absolve Laux, since he behave horribly towards Teena and towards her sister after she came in to take Teenas things after she was murdered. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. The real question is, why was Teena locking eyes with Lotter, ad not with Lana, her girlfriend, or anybody else, why Lotter? But I do think its a waste of time and resources to cut a plea deal with one to get a death penalty for the otherbecause Lotter would obviously want to appeal on that basis. It was a terrible crime, and while I oppose the death penalty one does encounter perps on FF who would and should be ahead in the queue for the chair (and if we have capital punishment it shouldt be the half-hearted quasi-medical procedure of injection, disgracefully administered by healthcare staff trained to save life) if we have to have it (I see we Im a Brit; the DP was abolished here in the 60s, but I know something of dangerous criminals having worked in a prison). WHERE ARE THE VICTIMS APPEALS TO THEIR HORRIFIC DEATHS?? Tough love. This is important because Tom Nissen is a repeat rapist. I believe that this is Teenas own research into her Celtic identity. There was a lot going on between them and it tied them to other individuals. First, A Teen. AT ALL TIMES! Your perspective illustrates why intelligent discussion of this issue cant be had with some people, who instead of addressing the argument criticise the person whose argument they dont like or dont understand. An Update on John Lotter and Thomas Nissen. . What about that so called sheriff. He was born a girl but cut his hair short and styled himself as a boy. I oppose the death penalty but if these two DO know right from wrong they surely are indeed fitting candidates, I spose this was, or would now, be termed a hate-crime: a category I think is nonsense. Judges unsympathetic. I read somewhere that John Lotter is on the intellectual level of an 8-year-old, which is old enough to know right from wrong. Gender is a social construct, hence fluid; sex is an empirical fact, hence fixed Its a shame theres rampant confusion about this (not by you, of course). The relevant question here is whether justice failed due to Sheriffs incompetence or because Nissen was able to intimidate his victims successfully. BB: Im sure youre right. Titre original: Boys Don't Cry Popularit: 11.214 Do you know who punches and kicks women in the stomach? I Brandon was saving money for gender reassignment surgery before he was slaughtered, it seems like the least we could do is refer to him as he wanted to be. Teena is standing at attention. By same token, any number of women refer to themselves in the masculine in their internal stream of consciousness He being a default for anything not being directly associated with the Female and Feminine. Give it a rest Marcus. I CANT TRUST THE LAW ENFORECEMENT COMMUNITY/ Interesting that Lana speaks nothing of it for the cameras, but Tom Nissen mentions it. He used stolen checks and credit cards to pay for flowers and stuffed animals for the women he dated; he was a romantic. VERBALLY/ She wanted to leave Humboldt since Dec 28 and cops were okay with it. Both him and Nissen deserve a bullet to the back of the head, and it would be a kindness. What kind of an apology is that? The sheriffs lines when interviewing Brandon after the rape(s) are appalling. 2- How many Transmen joined straight male criminal organizations or associated with heterosexuals? You have no idea that this happened, not why Teena said that. It seems that both, Tom Nissen and Teena Brandon were outsiders to the Falls City scene and that Teena may have known Nissen from someplace else, since they both appeared at the Oasis together, when Lana saw them for the first time. Tisdel defended Teena often, at one point lying to authorities and telling them she had seen him naked and saw his penis, in hopes they would leave him alone. "The scene is a karaoke bar where Brandon Teena's lost love . Normal sexual relations are damaged by the selfish misanthrope pedophiles, and consequently the victims biological sexual identity becomes affiliated with unpleasant experience and the powerlessness of their actual sexual biology as children which becomes dangerously inverted. I got three, and two got none of the notoriety because it did not involve any identity issues. Are they? BY AT LEAST Teena loved authority in the way of any good soldier who will fall in line and gladly stand at attention if the occasion calls for it. Thank you, Marcus. In his own mind he has forgiven Teena all her transgressions, and they were always the best of friends engaging in meaningful conversations. HE was transgender. They are undeniably, extremely guilty. Who here believes Lana Tisdel and her mother are the reasons for Brandon's death? In the past, Lana has also been known as Lana M Bachman, Lana Tisdale and Lana M Tisdel. What Happened to Brandon Teenas Most Famous Ex? I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. [7], Tanner Lambert graduated from Humboldt High School in 2011, and was raised by his aunt. RR, on Lana Tisdel and Her Mother: An Epilogue, 7 Unnerving Facts About the Lindberghs and the Kidnapping, The Lindbergh Kidnapping: Forensic Files Lost Episode, Dawn Fehring: A Missionary Dies Too Young, Greg Davis: Darlie Routiers No. I take it you like to think for yourself, too? Several things point to this. A large number of hobos watched and testified, but none stopped this murder. The biggest problem with the PC Brigade appropriating Teena Brandon as a transgender icon is that they overlook the real person who lived and died. Yes, she became an Issue, much as Matthew Shephard did when he was murdered by two scumbags, after which far more silliness issued. Each time they did so by punching and kicking her in the belly. Very tired of hearing this low IQ score crap!! Im pro trans-rights. By the reasoning that the death penalty is too expensive because of litigation, than all prisoners are too expensive because they all have the right to appeal, not just death row inmates. Shortly after the movies came out, Lana and her mother appeared on A Current Affair and The Maury Povich Show. If I recall correctly, Nissen has two sex assault type charges on his rap sheet. Psychiatric instability, tumultuous family lives, absentee parents, trigger tempers, suicidal tendencies, foster homes, a fascination with lethal objects, juvenile detention, sexual promiscuity, substance abuse, crime (theft and attempted burglary for Lotter, arson for Nissen), prison.. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. When Lotter and Nissen found out that their recently acquired drinking buddy who was dating Lotter's former flame Lana Tisdel was actually a woman whose real name was Teena Brandon, they became enraged. Teena stands her up, takes Lisas car, picks up Lana, and drives her up to Lincoln to go drinking at bars. Teena says that Nissen pulled her pants off but did not grope her. This overrides punitive consideration. You people need to have some respect. There is a noteworthy moment. Teena Brandon was great, because she had a personal strength ethic of heroic proportions. Lana Bachman lives in Centralia, KS; previous city include Falls City NE. That is why you see no academic papers about how they treated and attempted to heal Teena. At traffic stops, he tried to skirt the law by giving the pseudonym Charles Brayman to police. Pattern recognition and timing is the key to everything. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. She had the use of Lisa Lamberts car. Its not interested in what the average American thinks, because it patronisingly regards him/her as too stupid: a person who NEEDS to be told what to think. Tisdel died in 2007 at the age of 71. Thats why hes doing life & not death row. Whatever the case, Lotters last appeal was rejected by the Nebraska Supreme Court in September 2018. She corrected him and told him that she was Teena. The next article you should look at is Carolyn Gages The Inconvenient Truth About Teena Brandon, which gives a good account of Teenas psychiatric symptoms and why she was hospitalized, and has a great reveal in the end. P.S. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. Thats all for this post. Just because he was born a female does not mean you cant call him by the correct prounons. 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