(If this message was posted in error, please report the comment to the mods and we will remove it as soon as possible.). I do like the Gateron Reds but Gateron Yellows are just my favorites! These aren't mythical creatures, they're simply mechanical key switches in a hobby with tight tolerances. Bottom Housing Material - Gateron proprietary milky. For being a custom Gateron switch made in 2023, I am both not entirely surprised and yet simultaneously disappointed at their just barely better than average stem wobble. Figure 14: Force curve diagram for Gateron Root Beer Float switch. Keychron Q1 is the siilver with red keycaps. The latest in the content-adjacent work that Ive picked up, the new Force Curve Repository is now hosted on GitHub alongside the Scorecard Repository and contains all force curves that I make both within and outside of reviews. Figure 5: Every time I see 'Runner' this is what I think of. For those of you who are not aware yet, I also have separate repositories for my scorecards, force curves, and caliper-based switch measurements all of which are staple components of each and every full-length review. Here's my thorough review, SOUND TEST, and comparison for the Gateron Milky Yellow Switches! While Ive bought things from the many times in the past, they also are a sponsor of my work and allow me to get some of the great switches I write about! 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Divinikey has been a huge help to me and my builds over the last year or two of doing reviews and theyll definitely hook you up. Switched over to the POM plate so getting rid of this one. PuNkShoOs interest in finding switches he would want to use and his growing fanbase within the community will ultimately decide how this switch, as well as all his other future creations perform. Those imo sound and feel the best, and lubed are comparable in smoothness to creams. Much like the more yellow tint in the top housings, though, I may just be officially losing my mind. bottom out, gold plated long spring marketed in the interest check. Figure 19: Switches for comparison. Regardless of the type of Gateron switch, you can rest assured that you will get a 50 million keystroke lifespan for each switch. Unlike the Cream Sodas, however, these tactiles would be the first tactile switches from Gateron (and the second switch ever following Gateron North Poles) in which the stems would be made out of the ink thermoplastic material rather than traditional POM. In a series of questions I sent his way, he explained his initial interest in making these switches as well as all the other ones as hes created thus far as simply wanting to make something I would want to use, based on parameters within existing molds. He further went on to liken this to frankenswitching, of sorts, stating I know I am going to catch some flak for it, but I think its nonsense that people are having to spend $2+ on frankenswitches which consist purely of parts from a single manufacturer. With this idea of combining his favorite components from Gateron into a single switch in mind, the Cream Sodas were marketed as having a unique combination of existing components such as milky top housings, ink thermoplastic bottom housings, and long pole stems. SOLD. Looking first to the top housings of the Gateron Root Beer Float switches, they are a fairly standard milky Gateron top housings for all intents and purposes. On the good end of things, the strength of the tactile bump and pointed bottoming out of these switches are fairly well matched, with both having a firm and sharp feedback that lets you know exactly where you are in the switch. The stem does not wobble much as other switches I've used. -While the force curve comparison alone belays this point rather well, the Neapolitan Ice Creams and Root Beer Floats feel the most similar to each in terms of both tactile bump strength and size of any of the comparisons made on this list. I've enjoyed watching projects go from nothing to something and I always appreciated transparency. The subtly mentioned lack of stem/leaf lubrication in the Gateron Root Beer Floats is much more readily noticeable in the sound of the switch, which also accentuates a ping that is also present in the stem and/or leaves of the Root Beer Floats. I want to share this with the public and help build that loyalty.. Even out of the box (unlube it is pretty smooth. After a couple of weeks with them, I'm beginning to feel that they are just a little too stiff for me (50g operating - 63g bottom). have made it more than abundantly clear that Gateron is capable of cranking down the tolerances of the top housings and reducing stem wobble significantly, and yet it doesnt appear that this courtesy was extended to custom-ordered offerings. Figure 12: Gateron Root Beer Float bottom housing external design showing 'GATERON' anticounterfeit stamp and pair of capital letter mold markings. Figure 8: Gateron Root Beer Float top housing external design showing restricted LED slot and milky-yellow coloring. Primus 75 Brass plate $35 shipped. As for some of the less numerically based performance characteristics, the Root Beer Floats are okay for the most part, mixing some good, bad, and strange characteristics together. While it is fairly easy to imagine how a switch will improve in its physical feeling with lubrication when it comes a bit scratchy out of the box, it is a bit harder to develop a sense of how a switch is supposed to sound when scratch is such a large driver in the profile. Frustratingly par for what Gateron has been capable of in previous years, there is a somewhat noticeable and equivalent amount of N/S and E/W stem wobble that is unlikely to bother most people but also not quite up to par with recent premium Gateron releases. No film. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. You can read our full affiliate disclaimer here: https://keebnews.com/legal Gateron KS-8 Mechanical Switch Set. To put it about as bluntly as I can, without the contextual notes behind the design of the Gateorn Root Beer Floats, I am altogether not that impressed with how they turned out in their stock form. The Sound Test This sound test is from "The Asian Nerd." If you want to know more about the new switches, please watch his test videos. Without any explicit comparison, these very much remind me of Zyko-based frankenswitches which aim to push a high degree of tactility as well as shortened travel distance to provide distinctive feedback from both the tactile bump as well as bottoming out. Zelle or PayPal / Venmo Friends & Family. So, if youve not gotten a chance to check those out yet, I would highly encourage you to go over to those resources after this review and check them out as they each contain details and thoughts about switches Ive not even remotely had the chance to cover at length on this website. Figure 17: Force curve comparisons of New and Old Pin Gateron Root Beer Float switches. -Fresh out of the box, the Gateron Holy Panda X switches are quite a bit smoother than the Gateron Root Beer Float switches. 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Press J to jump to the feed. I decided to go for a linear switch and saw many recommendations for Gateron Yellow switches. Samples of these switches do exist out in the wild, though to my knowledge they were only actively sold and/or given to some collectors and content creators as they would not make the final production cut. While they can all be found either on GitHub or linked through the Archive tab of my website in the upper right-hand corner, there are also usually links to each one of these components when you encounter the scorecard, force curve, or measurement in a full-length review. To be frank, we all fuck up. Youre going to need 5% off your order with my affiliate to save off the cost of all those switches! So as a linear guy i guess i'll be satisfied with regular gats with black bottom. Its not as if there is much of a different tone or pitch in the Root Beer Floats, rather that their sound is just more complex on the whole. KS-8 Series. Much to PuNkShoOs credit, I am rather impressed with how he has managed to capture such a wide swathe of interest from the community with his switch designs in such a short amount of time. Yes. Note These scores are not necessarily completely indicative of the nuanced review above. Improved by Gateron in order to reduce pin bending during transit, the new pin design in Root Beer Floats sees a double layered metal PCB mounting pin whereas the old pin design looks like the standard two-ply metal pin. Dropping the factory lubrication that was present in the Gateron Cream Sodas at the behest of so many consumers wanting dry Cream Sodas, these $0.70-$0.75 per switch tactiles have been making the rounds via numerous content creators as of the time of writing this review and have been gaining a seemingly good reputation thus far. The opposite occurs with milky top black bottom gats, where you sacrifice smoothness for a deeper sound. Whereas Blueberry Chiffons have a short tactile bump that is very light in peak tactile force, the Root Beer Floats feel as if they have a much larger and snappier tactile bump. Next Time 75 is the yellow with black keycaps. 1. When asked about his plans for this, he very realistically pointed to the fact that I absolutely do not have the funds for R&D and production for custom mold money even though I have ideas Id like to try which no molds exist for. Not wanting to discount the possibility of this, though, he followed this statement up saying Maybe in the future once I've saturated the market truly and built a better relationship with a single manufacturer to make those kinds of waves. While I, personally, do not think that the Gateron Root Beer Floats turned out as solid as they could have been, I am but one switch reviewer. 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