. Det er den frste kampvogn som Vesttyskland udviklede og producerede efter 2. verdenskrig. The Leopard A1A6 mark was a short-lived attempt at arming the Leopard 1 turret with a more powerful 120mm main gun - a larger caliber gun most commonly found on competing Soviet/Russian main battle tanks. For some reason Ive found that playing the French version of the Leo is just so much more enjoyable. Qatari AMX-30s saw action against Iraqi forces at the Battle of Khafji. Work on the AMX-30D began in 1966, as the French Army researched developing a recovery vehicle to be issued to units receiving the AMX-30 tank. According to the test results, the characteristics of the Object 430 and the Object 430U will remain the same as they are on the main server. Armoured recovery vehicles and bridge-laying variants remain in service. [102] The origins of the decision to design a self-propelled howitzer can be traced back to 1969, with the first prototype completed in 1972. The tank now mounted the 105mm L7 gun over the Rheinmetall design, as well as adding an optical range-finding system for increased gunnery. The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower. [64] The BRENUS system used 112[68] GIAT BS (Brique de Surblindage) G2 explosive reactive boxes with a total weight of 1.7 metric tons (1.9 short tons), offering a protection equivalent to 400 millimeters (16in) of steel at 60 versus shaped charges[64] and more than 100 millimeters (3.9in) of steel versus kinetic energy projectiles such as APFSDS. In 1979, Spain began the production of a second batch of 100 tanks, completing a total of 299 AMX-30s issued to the Spanish Army; these were designated AMX-30Es. [8] For example, it included an oscillating turret, mounted on trunnions, which was the first of its kind. The Leopard is not designed to take hits from any guns, nor fight in stand-off situations against heavier enemy vehicles. Panier 0 Produit Produits (vide) Aucun produit dfinir Livraison 0,00 Total. The low muzzle velocity of this shell can make it quite hard to hit targets at larger distances, although an experienced tanker may be able to use this to their advantage by lobbing a round over a small defilade or hill. I am very afraid to admit it, but while Leopard 1 was my most favourite tank, I probably found a new one. It has identical stats to the AMX-30 and OF-40 which are 7.7, though. the first leopard 1s arrived in Australia in 1976 and served with the 1st Armoured Regiment. [35], The first production versions of the AMX-30, named AMX 30B to distinguish them from the AMX 30A prototypes,[36] were completed in June 1966, manufactured with a welded and cast hull and a fully cast turret. [6] The French government's specifications for the new tank were strongly influenced by both the Panther tank and the heavier Tiger I; specifically, the French Army was looking for a tank with the protection of the former and the firepower of the latter. The tank was finally designated the Leopard 1, with the prototype stage labelled as the Leopard 1A0. The seven 1963 prototypes of the AMX-30 were later rebuilt with the new diesel engine. The AMX-30 and the Leopard 1 on the other hand seem to follow a different idea of being light and mobile to avoid being hit. Leopard 2A4M CAN Canada Leopard C2 Canada Jaguar China / USA VT4 China MBT-3000 China VT2 China Type 99G China . In 1970 the prototypes were shown to journalists and participated in a military . As it combined a good accuracy with a penetration that was independent of range, it has been considered an "ideal round" for its day[34] The AMX-30 was also designed to fire the OE F1 Mle.60 high explosive projectile, the SCC F1 training warhead and the OFUM PH-105 F1 smoke round. These American tanks did not fit the tactical concepts Germany had developed at great expense during the Second World War, so a new design was sought which would integrate this knowledge and also rebuild the German armaments industry. The first five tanks were issued to the 501st Rgiment de Chars de Combat (Tank Regiment) in August of that year. Protection, instead, was provided by the speed and the compact dimensions of the vehicle, including a height of 2.28 metres. This mysterious monster terrorized the French county of Gvaudan in the 18th century and was hunted down by the legendary huntsman Jean Chastel. [37] The AMX-30's survivability was based on its mobility; French engineers believed that the tank's mobility would have been compromised had they added enough steel plating to protect against modern anti-tank threats, including high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT) warheads. [2] During the occupation, the French had secretly worked on an armour program that was, in 1944, taken over by the state workshop Atelier de Construction de Rueil (ARL), resulting in the design and production of the ARL 44, which began production in 1946. Two more prototypes were fabricated in 1972. [38] The turret has a maximum armour thickness of 50 millimetres (2.0in), the armour sloped at 70 degrees on the front plate and 23 degrees on the side, offering protection against 20-millimetre (0.79in) armour piercing projectiles. Though a tank is set, France and Germany split in the joint tank project in 1963 after France opted out of standardization with the NATO forces. [140], In 2015, Saudi Arabia's AMX-30s and M1 Abrams tanks deployed along the border with Yemen. [98] The missile itself weighs 2.4 metric tons (2.6 short tons) and is 7.6 meters (8.3yd) long. AMX-30 with stock HEAT and coax 20mm and nerfed movility is superior and the Italians have the same gun and ammunition in 7.3 but germany op reeeeeeeeeee. the Leopard C2 is now obsolete and the Canadian government has opted to use the Leopard 2. [7] Although the design borrowed from German tanks, including the Maybach 1,000 horsepower (750kW) engine, based on an earlier model, and the torsion bar sprung road wheels, the AMX 50 also included a number of unique features. Although the occupation of France during World War II temporarily interrupted French development of armoured fighting vehicles, clandestine research allowed the French to quickly recover lost ground after its liberation in mid-1944. There is, however, a significant downside to HEATFS: Given that it is a chemical energy round, its fuse is highly sensitive in regards to its practical application in battle. The armor of the vehicle was quite thin, but it was decided that technological advances in anti-tank shells had essentially rendered armor obsolete: survivability would depend on mobility and firepower. Kit no. The neutral steering is amazing, you are able to swivel your tank easily, and can be used to boost turret rotation speeds. Main battle tank of the Federal Republic of Germany. Canada received 127 Leopard 1 C1 tanks in 1978-1979 to replace the Centurion tank. The reverse is about -15 km/h off-road. Rechercher. In the early 1960s, Mitsubishi started development of a new tank that complied with government requirements for armament and defense. This ammunition is able to penetrate 150mm of armor angled at 30 degrees from horizontal at 5km. [38] Full preparation for water operations consisted of the addition of a snorkel tube, the installation of blanking plates, carried on the front of the hull, over the engine compartment's air intake louvers,[53] and the installation of infrared driving equipment, including a searchlight. 1 105 mm Royal Ordnance L7A3 L/52 rifled gun, 8-cylinder diesel SACM 1,100 kW (1,500 hp), MTU MB 838 CaM 500, 10-cylinder, 37.4 litres, multi-fuel engine 830 PS (819 hp, 610 kW) at 2,200 RPM. [16] The specifications (FINABEL 3A5)[17] for the new tank called for a lightweight and mobile battle tank, setting the weight limit to 30 metric tons (33 short tons) and compromising the ability to heavily armour the vehicle. The canon automoteur de 155 GCT (for Grande Cadence de Tir, fast rate of fire) was developed based on the AMX-30 chassis to provide tactical artillery support to units in the French Army, who refer to it as the AMX 30 AuF1. Danmark fik de frste af slagsen i februar 1976. [97], Three missile systems were developed to be mounted on the AMX-30 chassis. This transmission was heavily influenced by that of the German Panther tank and was based on a project which had begun in 1938. Leo 1 and AMX were developed at a time when armor was thought useless because of adv. [142] The following day, the 4e Dragons moved on to their next objective, "Chambord", where they reported destroying ten tanks, three BMPs, fifteen trucks and five mortars with the assistance of USAF A-10s, and capturing numerous prisoners. This allowed the projectile to be spin-stabilized, and therefore more accurate than a normal fin-stabilized HEAT round, while the inner shell did not spin, allowing the warhead to work at maximum efficiency. You see both of the M60 and Leopard I are made from the era that gave rather low priority to tank protection. An effective use of this is to combine all strengths of this tank by flanking the enemies holding a specific chokepoint, sniping their vulnerable sides (whilst they are under pressure from your heavier allies at the front), before advancing rapidly after the enemies are neutralised to capture a point or finish off remaining enemies which may be crippled but hiding. The fuel efficient engine, in conjunction with a total fuel capacity of 970 liters (260U.S.gal), gave the AMX-30 a maximum road range of up to 600 kilometers (370mi). [125] These rebuilt AMX-30s were soon replaced by M60 Patton tanks procured from the United States in the early 1990s,[126] while its fleet of AMX-30EM2s was later replaced by the B1 Centauro anti-tank vehicle. Despite the efforts of the greatest correspondence with the reality, there is no guarantee, that all the data is true. Although this particular vehicle began production in 1962, the appearance of the AMX-30 offered a larger chassis to which the S 401 A turret could be mounted on, providing superior mobility. Its replacement, the AMX 50, was cancelled in the mid-1950s in favor of adopting the M47 Patton tank. The versatility of the Leopard 1 design and its rather cheap cost in comparison to other tanks at the time made it a useful tank and it was sought out by many different countries in and out of the NATO force group. There were two sources of the AMX-30B2 tanks. [51] The tank's weight is distributed over five double, aluminum-alloy, rubber-tyred road wheels on either side, propelled on 570-millimeter (22in) wide tracks. [103], The first prototype of an improved AMX-30 for the export market, known as the AMX-32, was unveiled in June 1979. Maquette monter et peindre du char AMX 30/105 de la marque Heller. Connexion Contactez-nous. The 22-meter-long (24yd) bridge can span 20-meter (22yd) gaps. This prototype is known as the Dmonstrateur Furtif Chenille. The original engine was exchanged for an improved variant, known as the HS-110.2, producing 680 horsepower (510kW). The AMX-30 is the first tank to use France's very own 105 mm . Name: T-72 Leopard 1; Type: Main battle tank: Main battle tank: Origin: Russia: Germany: Produced: 1973: 1965-1979: Unit cost: 1-2 million $ (2009)-More: Description, operators: Description, operators: Specifications. Development was started in 1956. . Leopard 2. [123] The former was a much more complete upgrade, which saw improvements to the tank's mobility through the adoption of a new engine and gearbox, as well as to the tank's firepower, with the development of a new kinetic energy penetrator and the introduction of a far more complex and accurate fire control system for the tank's gunner, amongst other things. [9][12] In 1951 it was decided to turn the program into a heavy tank project with an even larger 120-millimetre (4.7in) tank gun; though three prototypes were built, this too was abandoned in 1956, mainly due to a failure to design a powerful enough engine. This caused a rift between France and West Germany, which then started to emphasize standardization with American equipment, especially in armament, and to follow the new NATO policy to use multifuel diesel engines. [139] Experimentally, a new regimental organisational structure was used, with three squadrons of thirteen tanks, a command tank and six reserve vehicles, instead of the then normal strength of 52 units. I know it doesnt have a stab which is huge but otherwise how do they compare against each other? I've also found that the play style I've developed playing it has improved my skills tremendously. [107] By 1971, about 180 vehicles were in service; in 1975 delivery began of the last 143 units of the final eighth batch of the original order. [4] Although the 48-metric-ton (53-short-ton) vehicle was comparable to contemporary battle tanks in firepower and engine power, it suffered from distinct disadvantages, including an antiquated track design. La Fnac vous propose 89 rfrences Auto, Moto, Camion : Vhicules militaires avec la livraison chez vous en 1 jour ou en magasin avec -5% de rduction. By the early '70s, the inferiority of the AMX-30 compared to more modern Soviet T-series MBTs had become obvious. Did the technology of the day mean that tanks would be easier to destroy than to protect or was it worth it to be heavier and slower but have more armor? The Leopard's armour is not thick enough in the game to defend itself from most incoming fire, as many shell types at its battle rating are able to easily penetrate and destroy the tank. 1 BadOpinionHaver Member 2,066 2,970 posts Gender: Male Location: Canada Interests: Military tech, aviation, video games As a result, virtually anything, such as trees or even a fence, will set it off prematurely, so you cannot fire through obstructions with this kind of round. These did not include gun stabilization from 1971, and from 1972[55] replacing the original coaxial heavy machine gun with a dual purpose 20-millimeter (0.79in) autocannon against light armour and helicopters, with the ability to depress to 8 degrees and elevate to 40 degrees. Suspension wheels and tracks are 20 mm thick. The vehicle had maneuverability, engine power, and effective anti-tank engagement distance superior to all other vehicles except the Leopard 1. will not harm crew members/modules at all. [121] As production of the AMX-30E ended in 1979, the Spanish Army was already looking for a modernization program to improve the quality of the tank's mobility. Creation of a smoke screen in front of the vehicle, Reduces the error and increases the maximum measurable distance of the rangefinder. 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Although a prototype designated AMX-30H was finished in 1968, it was not until 1971 that the vehicle was evaluated. Copyright 2019 ArmedForces.eu. The design featured quite a great number of Leopard-1 original parts parts and shared the general hull and turret with standard production Leopard-1s produced by the company. The main strengths of the Leopard I are its high mobility and the above-average rate of fire of the main cannon. Once you get the heatfs it's probably fine, but with me Leo 1 I didn't get past parts, fpe and hesh. Both Spain and Venezuela later began extensive modernization programs to extend the life of their vehicles and to bring their tanks up to more modern standards. and our The upgrades on mobility also includes upgraded torsion bars, hydraulic shock absorbers, new slightly larger road wheels, and Diehl Type 234 tracks. [113] The first units to be outfitted with the new tank were the 501st and 503rd tank regiments, followed by the 6th and 12th Cuirassier Regiments. [13] A private enterprise design aimed at fulfilling the same requirement was the somewhat larger Char Batignolles-Chtillon. Greece purchased another 192 used Leopard 1A5s. The Leopard 1 is also very effective at sniping, due to its relatively small profile and speed, and high-magnification optics and HEAT-FS being unaffected by range (in terms of penetration), allowing it to get to a comfortable sniping position and relocate quickly. Besides the diesel engines, they had changed hull and turret casts and different gun mantlets; the latter would again be changed in the production vehicles. [58][116], In 1969, the Greek military junta agreed to procure a total of 190 AMX-30s and 14 AMX-30Ds, making Greece the first foreign nation to purchase the French tank. Speed 40.4 mph (65.0 kph) Range 372.8 mi (600.0 km) (Showcased performance specifications pertain to the AMX-30 B2 production variant. [92] Bridgelayer development began as early as 1963, although it was not until June 1967 that development began on a prototype. [15] That same year, on 28 November,[15] the French and German ministries of defence in Paris agreed upon a contract which would allow both countries to produce two prototypes separately. Some information is indicative and estimated because of lack of official or up-to-date data. [2] The new vehicle was designated the AMX 50. Frontally, the angle of the hull can bounce shots once in a while, but you're better off not to rely on this. However, remember to be flexible and relegate this strategy to teammates using vehicles dedicated to this role (such as the JPz 4-5), as you are still a main battle tank and have other strengths, that they may not be suited to perform. The vehicle was the predecessor of the Leopard medium tank. Leopard 1 Battle Pass Season 7 Historical Revenant Mk. I was recently reading about various second generation tanks and I noticed that there seem to have been two different ideologies. Five vehicles of a pre-series were completed by 1977 and then evaluated, prompting the order of 183 vehicles that same year. Ariete. In combination with a good gun depression of -9 (meaning, you can lower the gun quite extensively . The tank commander also made use of a 7.62-millimeter (0.300in) anti-aircraft machine gun on the turret roof. # LIBRONS . [58] In 1985, the number of AMX-30s had risen to 1,173. By the end of production, 3,571 units of AMX-30s and its variants had been manufactured. The Leopard's worst nemesis are the ZSU-57-2, the PT-76-57 and the IT-1. It was introduced in Update 1.75 "La Rsistance" . However, ensure you are aware of your surroundings and have a fall-back option: getting caught off guard on the back of a hill with nowhere to back off to and with no real support is a death sentence. Leopard 2A5 - The Leopard 2A5 is a dangerous opponent, with a small gun mantlet weak spot and impenetrable turret cheeks. It ignores any angle, except for ricochet and deals damage by metal-flakes which are blown off inside the armour by the exterior explosion. Mobility was provided by the 720 horsepower (540kW) HS-110 diesel engine, although the troublesome transmission adversely affected the tank's performance. However, this attempt to create a unified European tank was unsuccessful. Total production of the AMX-30 and variants totaled 3,571 units. Fortunately, the OFL 120 F1 round can punch straight through the hull. However, no orders were ever placed. The Leopard I mounts one coaxial 7.62 mm machine gun and one pintle-mounted 7.62 mm machine gun. The first batches began arriving at the Bundeswehr (German Army) in September of 1965 and were put into units by November of that same year. This left Germany alone with their Leopard tank development, which they continued. The vehicle also has a 80-meter (87yd) heavy towing cable, while an auxiliary winch has another 120-meter (130yd) towing cable, able to tow up to 20 metric tons (22 short tons) when working over the front of the AMX-30D. [61] The main gun's lethality was improved with the introduction of a new armour piercing fin stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS). T-72 and Leopard 1. Leopard 1 vs T-72 | Comparison tanks specifications Compare tanks Leopard 1 T-72 Compare Share Leopard 1 and T-72 Specifications Caliber 0 25 50 75 100 125 Leopard 1 T-72 Caliber [mm] More Dimensions Leopard 1 T-72 Length Width Height 0 2 4 6 8 10 Images Leopard 1 The third missile system, called the AMX-30SA SAM, was developed in 1975 for Saudi Arabia, to fire the SA-10 Shahine, developed and manufactured by Thomson-CSF; the launching vehicle was heavily based on the AMX-30R.[101]. theoreticly, the AMX30 is wors than the leopard 1 because of : - mobility - heat that detonate to anything less than 0.00001mm - mobility yet aparently better than leo. [140] Also six older AMX-30Bs were deployed, fitted with Soviet mine rollers provided by Germany from East German stocks, and named AMX 30 Demin. Sometimes it can be wise to take less ammunition with you, as it will increase your survivability when taking hits - especially with the Leopard. A prototype was produced and delivered for experimentation in 1971, and in February 1973 the first of a pre-series of five vehicles was delivered. AMX-30: 16 France: Norway: Leopard 2A4NO: 52 (36 operational) Germany: 52 Leopard 2A4NLs were acquired from the Netherlands in 2001. 20112023 Gaijin Games Kft. The prototypes were tested up to 1963. fences, trees, shrubbery. World of Tanks - 10 Kills in the AMX 50 100 (Raw Video) - simp3s.net. [15][24] Work on the German prototypes was carried out by two teams, including Team A composed of Porsche, Maschinenbau Kiel, Luther & Jordan and Jung-Jungenthal . This, of course, requires knowledge about the vehicles you may face - so be sure to use the game's X-Ray view in the hangar and analyse your potential foes for their weak spots! The program involved modification of an existing Leopard 1 A1A production model and other changes included more armor at the turret facings. The remaining Leopard 1s are in storage, replaced by the Leopard 2. Chile used to operate 202 Leopard 1V, but sold some and currently have 120 in service. These first vehicles had a very rounded turret, in a deliberate imitation of the Soviet T-54, and Sofam petrol engines. The first few Leopards were designated Leopard 1A1 and continued all the way to Leopard 1A6 as it incorporates new technology such as sights, gun, radios, armour, or even small upgrades or redesigns on some parts. In the 1991 Gulf War, AMX-30s were deployed by both the French and Qatari armies. The Leopard is quite fast, so taking hits from a distance while on the move is a risk that you may consider worth taking. [23] As a result, the program was cancelled and the French and Germans definitely decided to adopt their two separate tanks. Download M60 vs T-62 PDF full book. It was preceded by two post-war French medium tank designs. [27], De Gaulle decided that France, though formally remaining a member, would no longer participate in the NATO military organization. Developed as part of a competitive search for a unified European tank. [64], In the nineties, a reactive armour package, named BRENUS or Brennus,[65] was developed for the AMX-30B2, but was issued only to two tank regiments, which in peacetime were combined into the 1er/ 2e Chasseurs, that were part of France's rapid reaction force;[59][66] the other two regiments using the AMX-30, the 2e/5e Dragons,[67] only had their tanks adapted for a possible relatively quick upgrade, in case of an emergency. Archived post. Beberapa simulator tank telah dimiliki TNI AD diantaranya adalah Leopard, Scorpion dan Stormer. You can change your cookie settings at any time. The turret mantlet has varying thicknesses ranging from 45 - 200 mm. Ammunition includes APDS, APFSDS, HEAT and smoke rounds. [13], In 1956, the WEU defence workgroup FINBEL (named after France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg), founded in 1953 and consisting of representatives of the various General Staffs,[14] drafted a set of specifications for a new medium tank to eventually replace their American and British tanks. The Netherlands operated 468 Leopard 1 tanks, and are replaced with Leopard 2 tanks. Developed in 1966. All rights reserved. The Roland's exploration radar has a detection range of 16 kilometers (9.9mi). Another 493 tanks were refitted and modernized to AMX-30B2 standards;[109] originally 271 new and 820 refitted vehicles had been planned. The frontal glacis was well-sloped, the hull\'s sites and and chassis are protected by 15 mm of add-on . Therefore the Leopard's armour design was only meant to withstand 20 mm calibres from the front. Each country began to build its own national tank the Leopard in Germany, the AMX-30 in France. Destroying (only black damage status counts, red damage does not prevent from firing ATGM) the rocket mount/cannon barrel forces the IT-1 to repair for a whole 27 seconds (maxed out + expert crew). Demoralized by heavy coalition bombardments, the Iraqi defenders rapidly surrendered. The MG3A1 is a General Purpose Machine Gun with a low calibre, being unable to penetrate most opponents, although its high rate of fire and the manoeuvrability of the roof-mounted MG can be used to eliminate exposed crew members quickly, especially useful against vehicles such as the UDES 33, or damage aircraft or the lighter utility helicopters sometimes encountered in higher-BR battles, such as the AH-1G. Named the Palmier Contract, Saudi Arabia's tanks were delivered between 1973 and 1979, while 59 AMX-30Ds were exported between 1975 and 1979, 12 AMX-30Ps between 1977 and 1979, and finally 51 self-propelled howitzers, delivered between 1979 and 1980. [135], Qatari AMX-30s saw combat during the Gulf War at the Battle of Khafji, where on 30 January 1991 they counter-attacked in an attempt to retake the city of Khafji from Iraqi forces which had occupied it the night before. Hitting exterior parts of a tank like spaced armour, the suspension, tracks etc. APDS rounds do require some finesse with their placement, and because of the lack of explosive filler, unless you're confident you can destroy the enemy before they can respond, you should attempt to disable their weaponry first to ensure your own safety. Comparing: AMX 30 1er prototype vs. Leopard 1 . [118] Ultimately, Spain opted for the AMX-30 for a variety of reasons, including British unwillingness to sell the L7 tank gun to a fascist regime[119] and the French offer to allow the AMX-30 to be manufactured in Spain. Germany continued with the Leopard, while France built the similar AMX-30. Some are kept in reserve in Chile and Ecuador due to their light frames and ease of use in soft soils like in the jungles in their countries. Anyone else found they cant go back to the Leo 1 after playing the AMX 30? [5] The prototypes were designated M4s, and AMX completed its prototype in 1949, while SOMUA would not be finished until 1956. This topic is locked; 12 replies to this topic Poll: Read before voting (41 members have cast votes) Which is better for you? [133] In 1977, France and Qatar signed an agreement which garnered France another 24 AMX-30s sold, which would rise to 54 when Qatar ordered a further 30 AMX-30B2s in 1987. whatheck0_0 4 yr. ago Leopard 1 was better. [71], The AMX-30 has a number of different variations, including a number of other armoured vehicles based on the same chassis. The next year, the vehicle was put into mass production and by 1 May 1974 four of these vehicles had been delivered to the 3rd Artillery Regiment. 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