(A Research, Photo-Identification and Information Website since 1997), The distinctive characteristic of the Portuguese Contract rifles & Carbines are their markings. Portugal had long relied on the industrial capacity of Britain to help supply it with arms and had been supplied with British P53 Enfields as well as with Westley Richards "monkey tail" long arms in the mid 1800s. unfortunately, the details are worn away. Please allow 7-14 business days from the time of booking for packing and dispatch, depending on your chosen shipping method. Tests proved the superiority of the breech loading mechanism (compared to the muzzle loading method of the Pattern 1853 Enfield and earlier muskets). The rifles are British pattern as are the carbines. Description: Canadian issue antique MKIII Snider as marked and issued to the Carleton Regiment from Woodstock, NB. Add To Cart. It was issued to line infantry and has three-groove rifling with one turn in 78 inches (200cm). Tough to say for sure, but sounds like a good possiblity. The overall length of the Long Rifle was 54.3in (1.38m), with three barrel bands holding the barrel to the stock and 3 rifle grooves with a 1:72 twist rate. This rifle barrel has been shortened at the breech and fitted with a smaller chamber. Numerous military markings. If your purchase is time sensitive, or you wish to explore other options, please see our list of alternative third party shippers in New York and Los Angeles who may be able to assist you. The snider patent came out in 1866 I believe. 3. In addition, the Fort Henry Guard at Fort Henry, Kingston also uses the various variants of this weapon for their re-enactments. The Pattern 1853 Fourth Model adapted to Snider. It involved cutting 2 1/2 inches off the breech of a standard-issue .577-cal. The Mark II** was fabricated from the existing Model 1861 muzzleloader, and is easily recognized by its early style breechblock and sling bar. Research has produced information that the 11th Bengal Lancers Cavalry Regiment used uniform chain shoulder pieces which were marked"XI BL". No.1' & '10/5/66' (OSC=Ordnance Select Committee). Rudyard Kipling gave a graphic depiction of its effect in his poem, "The Grave of the Hundred Head": A Snider squibbed in the jungle Revised September 1, 1999 Caliber The Cavalry Carbine is half stocked and has only one barrel band. Year(s) designed 19 1/4 inch barrel. Sentries on night duty in camps and cantonments would carry a Snider and buckshot cartridges. PHOTOS: The rifle photos shown are from several 1874 Portuguese contract carbines with Portuguese and BSA&M Co markings which were built and delivered in 1875. Want to search our collection? It also has the full set of government acceptance stamps and proofs on the left side of the barrel below the rear sight. MkII** - breech block design changed to strengthen. The Mark III rifles were newly made. BSA Co markings also appear on the breech block, and Snider's Patent and Snider Arrow thru S symbol on top of the receiver, along with an a Crown over FA, understood to be the Portuguese inspector's acceptance marking. Mark II* breech manufactured by BSA&Co. One more little question concerning our carbine: as I said before it has the double broad arrow marks above the Enfield cartouche on the stock indicating it was sold out of service. A few notes on the Snider which may help: MkIII - Purpose built, (not converted) with steel barrel and locking lug mechanism for securing breech, replacing the latching pin of earlier models. The Snider was notably powerful. . Picked up their Subaltern dead, The Snider-Enfield was designed to fire the .577 Snider round. It was later adopted by British Army. The Snider-Enfield entered service in 1866, replacing the Pattern 1853 Enfield (which would be converted to a breech-loading rifle), and remaining in service until 1901. We use cookies to ensure you have the best browsing experience and to help us improve our website. This variant was issued to sergeants of line infantry and rifle units. On the lockplate is a crown over 'VR' & 'Enfield' under '1865'. My question is therefore, would the Portugese have purchased it out of government stocks from the War Department (rather than from a Birmingham contractor) and not put their own coat of arms on it? This rifle is the MkII** conversion and comes with a triangular socket bayonet. British Snider Enfield Unit Markings Moderators: The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998 8 posts QCI Snider 33 21 Lance Corporal 8:44 PM - Mar 15 #1 Anyone out there recognize these unit markings? Portugal's "Monkey Tails" had become technologically obsolete. McLachlan, Sean (20 September 2011). If you are interested in consigning in future sales, please contact the specialist department. Once opened the block displays another Enfield . There were many new guns and lots of new gear to see at the 2023 NRA Annual Meeting & Exhibits. This was marginally smaller than the former .58in (14.7mm) Minie Ball of the Pattern 1853, meaning that the Pattern 1853 did not need to have a barrel change to be converted. British Enfield Pattern 1853 Rifle Musket Replacement Hardwood Wood Stock. Snider-Enfield Commercial Model Receiver. Somebody laughed and fled, Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 921(a)(16) defines antique firearms as all guns manufactured prior to 1899. Snider-Enfield Long Rifle Mk II conversion. Price$35.00 Notify when back in stock Part Number: W16230 SNYDER ENFIELD EXTRACTOR & RETAINER SNYDER ENFIELD EXTRACTOR & RETAINER, Original. The barrel has a lined-out marking,"N S CAS", & another marking,"N S PAN".Could these marks refer to the Cayman Islands & to Pakistan? Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifle-Musket. The left side of the barrel is profusely proof marked while the right side is serial-numbered. Osprey Publishing.p 37. It was later adopted by British Army. On the butt is a circular Enfield mark and Museum of Artillery No.1481. Their close relationship dates back to the Anglo-Portuguese Treaty of 1373. She's an Afghanistan bring back, but not by me, the GI that brought her back fell upon hard times, sold it to a dealer, where I picked it up. If an item is shown as offsite, please allow eight days for your order to be processed. They are obvious by their rifle rear sights, plugged stocks and bead front sights. ALL BIDDERS MUST AGREE THAT THEY HAVE READ AND UNDERSTOOD BONHAMS' CONDITIONS OF SALE AND AGREE TO BE BOUND BY THEM, AND AGREE TO PAY THE BUYER'S PREMIUM AND ANY OTHER CHARGES MENTIONED IN THE NOTICE TO BIDDERS. The barrel shows an excellent blue finish with the steel and Gov. One of my sniders came from my grandfather as well. Barrel length There were basically two versions of the British-issue Cavalry carbine, the Mark II** and the Mark III. Fore-end encircled by two barrel retaining bands (iron). The India Smoothbore Pattern 1859 dated 1864. ISBN 9781849084574. Feed system (photos courtesy Jean Plamondon. The barrel is circular external section, rifled with five grooves. Mon-Fri: 10:00am 4:00pmSaturday & Sunday: Closed. Makes it pretty special. Although the long and short Enfield rifle-muskets had barrel lengths of 39 and 33 inches, respectively, this was . It was common practice for Cavalry and Artillery units to be given Carbines or Musketoons which were shorter than the firearms issued to other troops. Carbine serial numbers have a "C" prefix. THIS AFFECTS THE BIDDERS LEGAL RIGHTS. Any help in this identification issue will be appreciated. The Snider-Enfield entered service in 1866, replacing the Pattern 1853 Enfield (which would be converted to a breech-loading rifle), and remaining in service until 1901. 2. The breech was then expanded to accommodate a cartridge, and a breechblock hinged to the right side of the opening. Are you planning to shoot it? NOT TEST FIRED - Accuracy Questionable due to Bore. The unit was secured by a simple spring-loaded pin that fit into a depression in the rear of the shoe face. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. My father bought a Snider MkIII carbine many years ago. Proof marks on this rifle are: crown over 'VR' over crossed sceptres over 'P'. Here are just a few of the stand-outs. Curiously, it seems at some point to have gone into native hands, judging from lines holes in the stock for decorative tacks or some such (long since removed apparently before my father bought it for $30 some 40 years ago). Legal Notice - International Military Antiques, Inc observes all Federal, State and local laws. Add To Cart. These came from British stores and should carry full British markings, although they may also have Portuguese inspection stamps. The wood stock is in great condition but unfortunately has two areas where it was burned and then haphazardly repaired. (Non-U.S.) Black Powder, Metallic Cartidge, Military Rifles, M1853/66 Snider-Enfield Mark I & Mark II (Converted) and M1866 Snider-Enfield Mark III (Newly built Patterns). Moderators:The Double D, Viclav, Johnny Yuma, GrantR Canada, Carignan Salieres, vincent998. M1853/66 Snider-Enfield Mark I & Mark II (Converted) and M1866 Snider-Enfield Mark III (Newly built Patterns) GENERALLY: The British .577 Snider was the most widely used of the Snider varieties , (the action invented by the American Jacob Snider) being adopted by Britain as an alteration/conversion system for its ubiquitous P/53 rifle-musket . The buttplate is held in by nails but fits nicely to the stock. Overall length: 37.5" Barrel length: 19.25" Normal dings to stock. Go to. The caliber is .577 Snider. A hinged block containing a spring loaded firing pin opens to the right by means of a knurled thumb piece on the left side. Adoption of the Snider by Portugal: In the early 1870s the British sold the Portuguese 10,000 British government Snider infantry rifles and bayonets, along with 3000 carbines, which were delivered in 1873 and began to replace Portugal's older arms. Re:"XI BL" Snider Cavalry Carbine buttplate unit identification markings. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. For further information, please contact Archive staff: Email: library@rmg.co.uk Manufacturers of the various types included Royal Small Arms Factory Enfield, Birmingham Small Arms Co. and London Small Arms Co., not to mention some foreign companies. The Snider-Enfield is referenced by poet Rudyard Kipling in the poem "The Grave of the Hundred Head": Rudyard Kipling, "The Grave of the Hundred Head", 54.3in (1.38m)-Long Rifle, 48.3in (1.24m)-Short Rifle, 39.6in (1.00m)-Artillery Carbine, 28.6in (0.73m)-Cavalry Carbine, 36in (0.91m)-Long Rifle, 33in (0.84m)-Short Rifle, 21.3in (0.54m)-Artillery Carbine, 19.5in (0.49m)-Cavalry Carbine. The Halifax Citadel Regimental Association does live-fire demonstrations in the Halifax Citadel; they have around 60 of these rifles. Lock marked, I have read, understood and agree to Bonhams. Snider Enfield MK III Short Rifle By BSA. All orders are subject to acceptance by IMA Inc, which reserves the right to refuse any order. Snider Enfield Rifle. Adopted by the German army in 1898 to replace the 1888 Commission rifle, the Mauser Gewehr 98 and derivatives became among the most widely produced and distributed rifles of all time. If you have any complaints or questions about the Conditions of Sale, please contact your nearest customer services team. austin. My father bought a Snider MkIII carbine many years ago. Stock bearing Enfield stamp above a 1 and with double broad arrow condemned/sale mark above. Such examples include the Charleville Musket and Brown Bess which had their own devoted Musketoon versions. Jacob Snider, an American, invented a breech-loading mechanism, which was used by the British to convert percussion muzzle-loaders into percussion breech-loaders. Does there happen to be a diamond shape mark on the stock with a D in the center? 1864. The British .577 SniderEnfield was a breech-loading rifle. RSAF Enfield It has five-groove rifling with one turn in 48 inches (120cm). The Snider was a type of breech loading rifle. Gun: Snider-Enfield Mark III Cavalry CarbineCaliber: .577 SniderSerial Number: 1151Condition: NRA Excellent (Antique Gun Condition Standards)Value: $1,150 to $1,300. Tel: +44 (0)20 8312 6516 (during Library opening hours). As a Mark III, this rifle was newly made at the time and features a BSAC over 1871 acceptance mark. These were often intended for sale to members of volunteer military units, or simply to anyone who might wish to purchase a rifle. inc. premium, Antique Arms and Armour and Modern Sporting Guns, Serial no. A British Snider-Enfield breechloading cavalry carbine, Sold for The breech has small opposing arrow, surplus sale markings. This comes up a lot, so I thought we should sticky post a thread on it for people to find easy and look up those common markings on our Snider rifles. Search here. -- Butt marked with the Enfield Armoury roundel and on the left side DC within a diamond. It was made in Enfield in 1870 and has the usual British proofs as well as the opposing broad arrow for being sold out of service. GENERALLY:These rifle and carbines are of conventional British Snider design and adoption. No.1' & '10/5/66' (OSC=Ordnance Select Committee). The percussion lock was replaced with a hinged block containing a spring loaded firing pin which opens to allow a cartridge to be loaded into it. Fair to good condition with the stock . [11], Esposito, Gabriele, The Paraguayan War 186470: Osprey Publishing (2019), Imperial Chinese Armies 18401911 by Philip S. Jowett, pp. [Source] [Talk]. They featured steel barrels which were so marked, flat nosed hammers, and a latch-locking breech block instead of the simple integral block lifting tang. The carbine has a medallion inset into the stock. The left side of the barrel is profusely proof marked while the right side is serial-numbered. It is a carbine variant with an 18-Inch barrel and two barrel bands. Original P-1864 Snider Rifle Upper Barrel Band with Sling Swivel. Brass trigger guard fitted with lower sling loop, the upper loop being secured to the upper barrel retaining band. We assume no liability associated with misuse of our products. But like the M1911A1, the Colt 1908 Pocket Hammerless was drafted from peacetime to wartime service. The rifles are British pattern as are the carbines. The barrel was fixed to the stock using two barrel bands. She has all the appropriate proof marks, and is marked II**. Snider-Enfield Rifle Mk I . See:/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Portugal. It was made in Enfield in 1870 and has the usual British proofs as well as the opposing broad arrow for being sold out of service. The gun did away with the sling bar and featured the latching breechblock, newly built parts and a trap in the butt for a screw-together clearing/cleaning rod. Should tribesmen try to get into the camp to steal rifles, the buckshot would give the sentries a better chance of hitting the thief, and unlike a .303 round, would be less likely to wound or kill a comrade should the sentry miss. The wood remains in vert good to excellent condition with clear markings and a small GD former owners initial a head of the triggerguard. .577 Snider The metalwork has worn down to its bare metal and retains zero percent of its finish but is in otherwise good shape for its age. Good vies of the left side of the breech block, receiver and profusely marked barrel. This is an excellent example of a DC marked Mark III Snider. The block on the first two had no latch, merely a thumb-piece. You may download material from this site for your own personal use only, Winchesters, Lugers, Smith and Wesson, Colts, Antique Guns, Modern Guns, Firearms, Swords, Ammunition, Militaria. Breechloading Rifle Sniders were offered in several models, including the standard three-band infantry rifle, a two-band Short Rifle and Artillery, Engineer and Cavalry Carbines, the latter of which is shown here. $18.95. Old Arms of Idaho strives to keep firearms fixable from the very old to the very new. Description: A BSA marked Short rifle dated 1872 with BSA Mark III marked breech. It includes its original front blade sight and rear notch. The 30.5" steel barrel has a fair bore. Payment for purchases may be made in or by (a) cash, (b) cashier's check or money order, (c) personal check with approved credit drawn on a U.S. bank, (d) wire transfer or other immediate bank transfer, or (e) Visa, MasterCard, American Express or Discover credit, charge or debit card for returning clients only. The lock is a Snider conversion to convert an Enfield muzzle loader into a breech loader. SN 1422 with a matching 422 on the breech which shows an excellent grey case color and deep clear inspector marks. Maximum effective range .577 Snider Enfield Mark III Shooting Range Report - YouTube 0:00 / 8:43 .577 Snider Enfield Mark III Shooting Range Report Murphy's Muskets 20.7K subscribers 81K views 11 years ago. 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